Does your character have a particular voice type in mind? Do they have an accent? Are they monotonous? Does their voice grate? Is it silky? Sultry? Low? High-pitched? Do they slur? Stutter? What in the world is the difference between some of these? Here are some…
This is the best, really a brother/brother relationship lol
Mashima is fair. I mean, GrUvia got their admittedly badass moment, and we got this teensy bit of consolation. It was amusing.
I just don’t get it. It’s like everyone ignores Gray and the fact that he clearly is annoyed by her. Sure, they did a unison raid, but again, after the unison raid? He runs off.
@kalmah: (Nothing against the actual post)
1. Do you actually see that Gray is blushing while saying it? It’s the second time he acts a bit tsundere.
2. He doesn’t run off. They’re still together holding each other until they face Sting. And Gray could’ve let go as well but he didn’t.. oh yeah he definitely doesn’t like her.
3. In this entire chapter, did you see how Gray smiles at Juvia and he even stared at her the first time while they were still attacking.
This is just for Kalmah. I needed to say this. Sorry if I was insulting you.
Sorry,but i don’t get why some still believe that.
In this arc we saw something from Gray.
And i just CANNOT understand HOW Grayza is possible.
Either way take it as a fact(when it’s clearly NOT)that Gray has/had a crush on Erza.
We know that Erza is in love with Jellal,and Jellal is in love with her.How this mutuality,means a BIG possibility for Grayza i don’t know.
Take off the shitty shipping googles,and NO,i don’t care if some are insulted by my words,it’s their fault when they reading out of context.
It’s another thing to LIKE a non canon ship that has no evidence and no chances at all,and another to BELIEVE that this ship has potential to be canon one day,while attacking the potential ship,that clearly is there by the mangaka,and twisting characters(Gray-Erza).
(This was in the grayza tag…how did it ended all the way to gruvia’s domains? xD).
First of all, nothing is canon till it becomes canon.
Second, only because a ship is canon doesn’t means everyone HAS to like it (when did that become a crime?).
Third, as shippers we want our ship to be canon, we will also believe it has chances of becoming canon (this is not a must, though), but that doesn’t means we will shove it down everyone’s throats to desperately make it canon.
C’mon, Kalmah was just stating her opinion, she wasn’t trying to sink any ships, then I get Shika was doing the same thing which I am grateful for (cause it helps to understand other people’s opinions & become more tolerant ;D).
I kinda share the opinion that Gray is annoyed from time to time by Juvia (when she becomes too clingy he makes Gray uncomfortable), but that doesn’t means I’m saying he dislikes her at all (I think it’s because Gray is not used to it so he gets annoyed).
I don’t think the guy’s tsundere (for that we have Ren xD) I just think he doesn’t knows how to deal with such head-on displays of affection (I don’t blame him, most of us are on the same boat :P).
I know all that stuff yet I ship Grayza because I like it…but I don’t need to deny Gruvia in order to keep liking my ship :)…Gruvia is awesome too, but in the end it’s just a matter of tastes.
Besides if Gruvia is going to be canon I don’t see anything wrong with people still liking other pairings (why would it matter anyway? We are not threatening Mashima to make Grayza canon xDDD, it just makes you look insecure about your ship, if you ship something you should have more faith in it…c’mon ;)).
Now, can we all get back to the friendly atmosphere we had before while sharing a drink & talking about dragons or somethin’? :D….Pretty please…with sugar on top :’)
(this was on my dash today)
1)If by canon means kids and marriage,then NOTHING is canon in every series-manga-whatever out there.
Jellal and Erzas ROMANTIC love for each other is THERE.I never saw anyone before the timeskip to complain about Alzack and Bisca.
They were in love,and they got together later.Means that their MUTUAL feelings weren’t canon?
2)I wrote this in my first post.To LIKE and to BELIEVE are two completely different things.Ship whatever you want,but when canon is against your ship,doesn’t means it has the chance because the manga is still ongoing.
3)Twisting the Gray - Erza friendship,and especially from Erzas part.A relationship is about two,not one.Even though Gray,gave us hints in this arc,not about Erza,but Juvia.
When he blushed about the fact that Erza mentioned to him Juvias love,means Gray is in love with Erza,right?
You can’t sink ships that are canon.Gray is a tsundere.He’s just not in Rens level.And he could let go of Juvias hand,but he didn’t.
Again,i never said is wrong to prefer and like two characters together as a couple,even when they are not canon.
The problem is TWISTING facts,and reading out of context.
Tenrou Island : Erza caught Gray bc he couldn’t stand on his own.
This time was Juvia,the girl that is labeled ONLY as annoying and shit,Gray was ok with that,Juvia was ok with that,and both they were serious,BUT,when Erza did it,it was romantic?
Reading out of context,like “they have the same pose”,or whatever to justify your ship?
It’s a matter of taste like you said.But can you see the difference,about like a ship,yet acknowledge that has zero chances,with believe the “potential” of a ship and have to read out of context or see in which panels these 2 characters are together,and take it as fact that they have romantic feelings for each other.
I personally,have no problem with shippers of Nali-Lolu-Grayza etc,who just like these ships,and not the ships i like.
But i have problem,when shippers dismissing canon facts,twisting them over and over,because their ship MUST be a canon one and if not,the world ends.
(Most likely got there via reblog :P).
1. Well, by canon I understand (forgive me if I’m wrong) confessing love & getting together (cause if you don’t state it clearly it could be anything else, love is really complicated)…but following the marriage & kids thing there are still pairings that could be canon (DragonBall, Digimon, FullmetalAlchemist…I dunno, marriage exists in manga & anime too :P).
If love is a complicated topic in real life it’s ought to be complicated as well in fiction, that’s why I didn’t mention Jellal & Erza, cause they have a really complicated situation ATM xD (they love each other but something is holding them back so they gotta sort it out to be together but they’re not doing it…uh…I don’t wanna get in that topic, there’s thousands of things that can be said & done about them xD).
2. There are many stories where the pairings were kind of settled but stuff happened & at the end the pairings were completely diferent (so why can’t people keep hope? I’m sure that more than half of the shippers in any fandom would keep supporting the ships they like even if it’s not canon anyway ;), let’s be honest, being a shipper involves being persistent xD).
3. I can just say that no one can decide who is the one twisting the facts here cause both of us are biased (please don’t take me the wrong way, I know people that don’t ship anything in FT & tell shippers they are the ones twisting facts to fit romance in some parts of the series (they aren’t saying there is no romance in FT, just sayin there’s no romance everywhere in FT), it’s a matter of perspective here) by the fact that we like a ship (maybe in the end the only relationship Gray gets is a great friendship with Juvia & Erza & nothing more…in the end none of us can’t tell because we aren’t Mashima).
(BTW this doesn’t means I’m saying Gray MUST love Erza just because he blushed while talking with her in the balcony xD).
I don’t really see Gray as tsundere (already said why), but that’s just me (I know tsunderes don’t have to be the comical girls that deny what they really want with a blush, but I just don’t feel Gray fits in, again, it’s just my opinion on the tsundere-matter, not trying to convince ya about anything here :P).
About the liking ships thing I wasn’t pointing fingers at anyone, sorry if I made it feel like I was accusing ya.
Twisting facts is really a topic by itself…everyone can twist facts without even knowing (when writtin’ somethin writers gotta keep in mind that their stories are never gonna be interpreted the exact way they ought to be interpreted), but I get what you mean. I can only say that people will always see what they want…& it doesn’t means they’re twisting anything (or that they are doing it on purpose to make other people mad).
Well, when you like a ship you’re always hoping it may have a chance (except if you aknowledge it as crack, cause in that case you admit it has zero chances yet you choose to keep shipping it).
And sometimes people tend to be dramatic xD, I may not know a lot about ships (I’ve never been good at shipping), but I know shippers whose parings weren’t endgame & as far as I’m concerned (even if they said their life was ending if their pairing wasn’t canon), they just got mad for a couple of days & then resumed their shipping activities completely ignoring the canon :P (if you don’t really like a ship chances are slim that you may like it even if it’s canon xD).
I get that you don’t like people going over the edge to justify their ships, but that can’t really be helped cause shipping involves feelings & that’s a really confusing & twisted shit xP, I guess we could only ask for people to keep their love in places were they don’t annoy others…? (gosh, I feel like a person asking gay people to stop their PDA xD).
If you want to keep talking about this I think we should take it somewhere private *wink*
I don’t mind talking with ya (specially cause i feel like we are getting somewhere rather than just bashing) but I wouldn’t want to cause a shipping war if things get heated (even in friendly debates if people get too passionate things get heated xD).
So, yeah, take care ;).
1)No.Erzas love feelings for Jellal,are there.I never understand WHY canon feelings MUST be stated by words.
Juvia has expressed her love for Gray via words and ACTIONS.
Yet,she is called only a fangirl,with JUST a crush,because most of the times she is in the way of ships,that clearly are friendship.
Grays actions in this arc,was something that Gruvia shippers waited for all this time,because having just one character of your ship in love,can’t make the ship sail.
When Lyon appeared,and fell for Juvia,Grays behavior was something new,yes,new.When did he ever acted like that about Lucy-Erza or any other FT member?If you compare his “shippy” moments with Erza and Lucy,then,Gray is in love with both of them.Or not?Oh!It’s just friendship feelings.
Jerzas situation right now,is because of Jellal.He doesn’t think he’s worth for her because he killed Simon and he can’t forgive himself for this,but that doesn’t mean Erza will fall out of love.Remember that she told him to live for his “fiance” sake aka Erza herself.
Elfman x Evergreen anyone?Is there a doubt that something is between them? http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/298/6
Like i said,nothing was a problem with Alzack x Bisca before the timeskip.Why no one shipped them with another character?Well,answer is pretty obvious.
2)Personaly,i can’t think any ship that was sort of canon and didn’t happened or implied at the end,from whatever series-manga-books i have watch-read until now.
Hope.This is my problem.Like it,ship it,draw it.But when you believe in a ship that isn’t there,you go and attack-bash the ship/s that the characters of yours are canon.
3)Twisting facts : -Gray didn’t blush for Juvia like never when he DID.
-Erza may have feelings for Gray when she DOESN’T.
-Gray is in love with Erza,when,like you said,NEVER expressed any words about love to her,or to himself.Zero side in this case,doesn’t make it possible.
Levy has feelings for Gajeel,yet she never said a thing.We see where Mashima is going with them.Is there a problem with them?No.Same goes to Gajeel—->Levy.We know that he hurt her so did with Lucy,but he’s not like that with Lucy.
When i read,i’m not biased.I ship when i see what the mangaka has set for his characters.Means that early in the series i shipped Grayza,but in the Oracion Seis arc was clearly Erza<—->Jellal,and so is until now.
We’re not Mashima.But Mashima is the one who writes this story.If we go according to this,then nothing is stable in the series.Nothing.Every fact we know,will turn to something else.
This,is the same with his characters,and their feelings or development.
With that,i mean,Natsu turn to be the bad guy,Zeref is the Messiah,Erza is not a fighter and Lucys magic aren’t her keys.
Gray blushed in the balcony scene,not because OF Erza,but because Erza mentioned Juvias love FOR him.There’s no other way around.
I’ll give to Grayzas an advice.Go and look the Graylu tag.I’m sure you’ll find many common things between Grayza-Graylu.The “hints” for both ships are the same.You cannot interrupt Grays actions for both girls as romantic.He doesn’t act like he does with Juvia-Lyon,with Lucy-Natsu/Loke or with Erza-Jellal.
Gray is a tsundere.He didn’t want to ride the “love slide” http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/298/6 “I’m not going” while blushing and then some moments later http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/298/16 he is up there,and when this happened thanks to Natsu http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/298/17 he’s screaming “Why with you” to Lyon.He’s not Ren to act like him.He’s Gray.Different characters,different tsundere levels.
Just wanted to make it clear,because i never said that.
Twisting facts again,i’m sick of it.One of my fandoms has a part,that not only twist every canon fact there,reading out of context because of a ship,but make false translations in the manga-novel and even interviews from the mangaka.Why?They can’t accept that nothing goes how they wanted it to be.They BELIEVED,something the mangaka made it clear from the start that isn’t possible.
You can’t like something you don’t lol.
Then comes the butthurt in it.By twisting it,because you were wrong.
Like i read in this post,Gray didn’t blush,yes,even now there is a blushing Gray in these panels.Gray run away from Juvia in these panels,and wonder where is he running from her,because he doesn’t.
At last,i don’t like to keep talking about this.Maybe in the next shipping moments between Erza or Gray with whatever character.
Btw,it’s tiring to talk about it.Because the point is ship what you ship,even if it’s not canon.Not just you,in general every person.
Guys, actually, just imagine what you feel when your OTP has a moment. You feel like exploding rainbows. Other fandoms experience the same thing . Let’s not destroy each others’ happiness by explaining the situation or whatever. I think it’s safe to say everyone’s a bit biased, heh.
That said, if Mashima trolls and lets loose a completely unexpected and random ship (like Gray and Evergreen and Juvia and Toby hurhurhur oh my gosh) we can unite against him. XD
when people say your notp is canon
THE MIDDLE ONE OMG
*quietly steps over a sleeping dog*
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